Off to see the dermatologist…
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The diagnosis code for Acne Vulgaris is 706.1 I seem to have suffered the very bad stage of my acne already and now suffer just the occasional breakout. However, I was hoping to see a dermatologist anyway to see what I can do about reducing oil and what can be done about left over scarring. Do you think most health insurance packages cover this or no? I know it seems cosmetic, but it is really a problem that I would like to have looked at. Just wondering what your opinion is. Thanks.
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And I forgot one other reply. To John, I live in the USA and am currently under a Blue Cross/PPO medical insurance plan.
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> I shampoo every day. And that reminds me: my scalp is also oily so > there’s obviously some connection. ::shrugs::
<snip> Do you have long hair?Is it actually in contact with your forehead? Do you need to shampoo every day? Have you tried lots of other shampoos? I cant imagine that over shampooing will help to balance the over production of oil that you suffer from, more likely to help may be oil based products. Jojoba can be used on the scalp, and there are several shampoos containing EFAs. I guess these are obvious points to make. Sorry for trivialising your problem, I really thought it may have been a joke, we’ve been getting a fair amount of trolls lately and I thought you may have been one, apologies. I think the main difference for me, betweem your prblem and other people’s problem on here, given that as you rightly pointed out both are concerned with appearances, is that you can look normal by simply carrying a hankerchief and mopping your brow when it’s oily, others cant do a thing, (even find a temporary solution such as mopping your brow), which is perhaps one of the most frustrating parts of acne Hope the derm helps J
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> Wouldn’t that statement probably apply to at least 80% of the people > who frequent this newsgroup? Short of skin melanoma or cysts (etc,), > most of us really ARE focusing on cosmetic issues. My shiny forehead > bothers me just as much as someone else’s acne problems bother > them–the difference is this: I’m not so presumptious that I would > tell anyone with acne problems that they should just "get over it" or > that *my* problem is more serious than theirs.
Ok, but to be fair, an oily forehead does not cause scarring. It probably doesn’t fluctuate, and drastically alter your appearance from one day until the next. Nor can those with acne "wash" their problem away every hour or so. It’s a valid problem, and the one you need to find a way to control. But fairly, it isn’t disfiguring. > <<Also, have you switched hair products, eliminated conditioner and > made > a point to shampoo every day? Oil on the forehead might be traced to > your scalp oils.>> > I shampoo every day. And that reminds me: my scalp is also oily so > there’s obviously some connection. ::shrugs::
Have you tried shampoos for oily hair? The oil on your scalp can migrate to your forehead. You don’t have excess oil around your nose? Most people grow out of super-oiliness when they hit 25 or so, don’t know how old you are, but hope that is light at the end of the tunnel. K
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If you have a vaild Acne condition, chances are your insurance provider will cover the charges. Call your insurance company and ask what the coverage is for an Acne Vulgaris diagnosis. (I don’t recall the code) Yes, see a dermatologist. He can provide you with topicals to help "unclog" the pores and help reduce oil production. If your condition is mild, email me and I’ll try to steer you to the right products that contain ingredients indicated for the control of Acne Vulgaris, that you can purchase from a derm or plastic or high end spa, Accutane, an oral medication, will both clear the follicle of the excess dead cells, and oil clogging, and decrease oil production. However, your lesions should be remarkable enough to warrant such treatment. Be aware that neglecting treatment for nodular or cystic Acne can result in life long scarring. Ask your doctor about your options. Karen BCMA
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, > In the past on these newsgroups, I’ve spoken before about my skin > problems: I have no acne/pimple problems, but I’ve always had (since > puberty) an EXTREMELY oily forehead. I also seem to sweat heavily > from that area with physical exertion or heat, which leads to a whole > other mess. > Anyways, I tried ketsugo and didn’t get any results. > I tried B5 and didn’t really see any results either, excluding side > effects: diarrhea, loose stools, etc. Besides, taking 5000 to 10,000 > mg of ANYTHING daily can’t be too good for you. > But enough about the past. I’ve made up my mind to see a > dermatologist. > What are other people’s experiences with dermatologists? Were they > able to "cure" your oily forehead problem? What course of > treatments/medications can I expect, as well as side effects? And > maybe most importantly, are dermatology visits covered by most > standard medical insurance plans (Blue Cross/PPO, etc)??? > You can reply and/or e-mail me. My thanks in advance. > Losing hope but crossing his fingers, > B. > "It doesn’t matter how handsome you are. If you’ve got an oily > forehead, that’ll scare any woman away…"
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by what mechanism does ketsugo reduce sebum?
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Good tip, NonSequitur on the oil absorbing papers. If you’re out, you can use the toilet seat paper covers in public restrooms, somebody said they work well in a pinch. (uhh, grab a fresh one, of course) 
You can use the Clinac OC, which will absorb oil. Also L’Oreal made (2 years ago, not sure if they still sell it though) a toner called under their Plenitude line, "Dual Action Shine Control Toner". Has micro powder in it, and works really well. (and it’s invisible). Ingredients aren’t great, but if you don’t have a problem with breakouts, it shouldn’t be a problem. It sucks up all the oil instantly.(Body Shop also used to make a product that was similiar, altho their product was a brown color, a hint of tint, so to speak.) Also, have you switched hair products, eliminated conditioner and made a point to shampoo every day? Oil on the forehead might be traced to your scalp oils. Really, you might just need to be vigilant about using some sort of toner on that area every few hours. I know that’s a PITA, but count yourself lucky that all the oil hasn’t caused breakouts, imo. K
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This will be a consolidated reply/post since I’ve been having problems recently with my posts not going through from deja.com. From Rookie: <<presume this is a joke? An oily forehead? Really, get over it. I dont suppose anyone else can even tell.>> From Jeremy Wong: <<Your doctor will probably be wondering why you don’t have more important things to worry about.>> Wouldn’t that statement probably apply to at least 80% of the people who frequent this newsgroup? Short of skin melanoma or cysts (etc,), most of us really ARE focusing on cosmetic issues. My shiny forehead bothers me just as much as someone else’s acne problems bother them–the difference is this: I’m not so presumptious that I would tell anyone with acne problems that they should just "get over it" or that *my* problem is more serious than theirs. <<Clean & Clear is one line that’s great. Don’t waste your money or your insurance money on a simple problem to clear up with OTC items. You can even buy rice paper for blotting/absorbing excess oil throughout the day. A month’s worth? $3, and they’re great.>> I haven’t tried rice paper yet, but toilet paper and Clean & Clear, I have tried…and both are great if you have a mild oil problem; my problem isn’t mild. I’ve also tried T-zone control gels (Neutrogena, Lancome), and those have worked for maybe 30 minutes before I have to reapply (considering I don’t sweat ‘em off). <<How long did you use the Ketsugo for, and what was your regimen during that time? Ketsugo is the most effective sebum reducer there is OTC, possibly only beaten by Accutane. I do sympathise with you though about having oily, shiny skin….>> I don’t remember how long I was using it; it was over a year and a half ago. All I remember is that I followed the instructions to a "t" until the bottle ran out. Maybe it works for other people, but I honestly didn’t see any change in my own skin (at least not enough to warrant ordering another bottle). BTW, TJU, in the past you’ve mentioned "theatrical matting lotion." Where can I find this stuff? Know any websites which point to it? <<Also, have you switched hair products, eliminated conditioner and made a point to shampoo every day? Oil on the forehead might be traced to your scalp oils.>> I shampoo every day. And that reminds me: my scalp is also oily so there’s obviously some connection. ::shrugs::
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How long did you use the Ketsugo for, and what was your regimen during that time? Ketsugo is the most effective sebum reducer there is OTC, possibly only beaten by Accutane. I do sympathise with you though about having oily, shiny skin….
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, > In the past on these newsgroups, I’ve spoken before about my skin > problems: I have no acne/pimple problems, but I’ve always had (since > puberty) an EXTREMELY oily forehead. I also seem to sweat heavily > from that area with physical exertion or heat, which leads to a whole > other mess. > Anyways, I tried ketsugo and didn’t get any results. > I tried B5 and didn’t really see any results either, excluding side > effects: diarrhea, loose stools, etc. Besides, taking 5000 to 10,000 > mg of ANYTHING daily can’t be too good for you. > But enough about the past. I’ve made up my mind to see a > dermatologist. > What are other people’s experiences with dermatologists? Were they > able to "cure" your oily forehead problem? What course of > treatments/medications can I expect, as well as side effects? And > maybe most importantly, are dermatology visits covered by most > standard medical insurance plans (Blue Cross/PPO, etc)??? > You can reply and/or e-mail me. My thanks in advance. > Losing hope but crossing his fingers, > B. > "It doesn’t matter how handsome you are. If you’ve got an oily > forehead, that’ll scare any woman away…"
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I agree with the other poster, if an oily forehead is the only reason you’re going to see a dermatologist, you’ve got a lot of spare time on your hands and little to worry about cosmetically. There are hundreds of basic OTC products for controlling oily skin, and they work well. Clean & Clear is one line that’s great. Don’t waste your money or your insurance money on a simple problem to clear up with OTC items. You can even buy rice paper for blotting/absorbing excess oil throughout the day. A month’s worth? $3, and they’re great. NS
: Hi, : : In the past on these newsgroups, I’ve spoken before about my skin : problems: I have no acne/pimple problems, but I’ve always had (since : puberty) an EXTREMELY oily forehead. I also seem to sweat heavily : from that area with physical exertion or heat, which leads to a whole : other mess. : : Anyways, I tried ketsugo and didn’t get any results. : : I tried B5 and didn’t really see any results either, excluding side : effects: diarrhea, loose stools, etc. Besides, taking 5000 to 10,000 : mg of ANYTHING daily can’t be too good for you. : : But enough about the past. I’ve made up my mind to see a : dermatologist. : : What are other people’s experiences with dermatologists? Were they : able to "cure" your oily forehead problem? What course of : treatments/medications can I expect, as well as side effects? And : maybe most importantly, are dermatology visits covered by most : standard medical insurance plans (Blue Cross/PPO, etc)??? : : You can reply and/or e-mail me. My thanks in advance. : : Losing hope but crossing his fingers, : B. : "It doesn’t matter how handsome you are. If you’ve got an oily : forehead, that’ll scare any woman away…"
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My bet is that no dermatologist will prescribe anything for your oily forehead. Your doctor will probably be wondering why you don’t have more important things to worry about.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, > In the past on these newsgroups, I’ve spoken before about my skin > problems: I have no acne/pimple problems, but I’ve always had (since > puberty) an EXTREMELY oily forehead. I also seem to sweat heavily > from that area with physical exertion or heat, which leads to a whole > other mess. > Anyways, I tried ketsugo and didn’t get any results. > I tried B5 and didn’t really see any results either, excluding side > effects: diarrhea, loose stools, etc. Besides, taking 5000 to 10,000 > mg of ANYTHING daily can’t be too good for you. > But enough about the past. I’ve made up my mind to see a > dermatologist. > What are other people’s experiences with dermatologists? Were they > able to "cure" your oily forehead problem? What course of > treatments/medications can I expect, as well as side effects? And > maybe most importantly, are dermatology visits covered by most > standard medical insurance plans (Blue Cross/PPO, etc)??? > You can reply and/or e-mail me. My thanks in advance. > Losing hope but crossing his fingers, > B. > "It doesn’t matter how handsome you are. If you’ve got an oily > forehead, that’ll scare any woman away…"
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Hi, In the past on these newsgroups, I’ve spoken before about my skin problems: I have no acne/pimple problems, but I’ve always had (since puberty) an EXTREMELY oily forehead. I also seem to sweat heavily from that area with physical exertion or heat, which leads to a whole other mess. Anyways, I tried ketsugo and didn’t get any results. I tried B5 and didn’t really see any results either, excluding side effects: diarrhea, loose stools, etc. Besides, taking 5000 to 10,000 mg of ANYTHING daily can’t be too good for you. But enough about the past. I’ve made up my mind to see a dermatologist. What are other people’s experiences with dermatologists? Were they able to "cure" your oily forehead problem? What course of treatments/medications can I expect, as well as side effects? And maybe most importantly, are dermatology visits covered by most standard medical insurance plans (Blue Cross/PPO, etc)??? You can reply and/or e-mail me. My thanks in advance. Losing hope but crossing his fingers, B. "It doesn’t matter how handsome you are. If you’ve got an oily forehead, that’ll scare any woman away…"
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